Official WWE SmackDown vs. Raw 2010 Thread

[Big Vito 22]

Originally Posted by Anybody Thrilla Jimmy Wang Yang's Road to Wrestlemania. Please write that storyline for me.

"I ain't no foreigner, I ain't a stereotype, I'm a redneck. Will I get to appear on SmackDown this week on MY...Road to WrestleMania. YEEEEEE-HAW."

[What Would Kevin Do?]

It won't happen, but I want KOC style reversals.

[What Would Kevin Do?]

Also, I want some sort of a FPR/KOC critical system.... Mainly because I'd like some sort of unexpected endings to matches. Like every once in awhile, Mysterio should be able to get a quick win with a rollup within the first couple minutes of a match.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I wonder...if they stick with the Sept. 30 release date, if IGN.com is planning on having their regular annual "SmackDown Countdown"...

[Big Vito 22]

There is no way they are actually releasing this on September 30th. If they were, the countdown would need to start pretty damn soon, as I'm pretty sure the countdown last year didn't begin UNTIL September.

Speaking of the roster, I just realized it's now down to just 4 guys who have been selectable in all ten of the SD games so far (and all 4 are locks for this year's game as well): Triple H, Undertaker, Kane, and Edge. And Vince has been in each game also, though not always playable.

[DAMN iNATOR]

http://xbox360.ign.com/objects/143/14347664.html
I know, I know at the very top, under Release Date: , it reads Q3 2009, but if you look a couple sections down, where the heading is "About This Game", it lists a generic description, the Genre, the platforms besides XBox 360 the game will release on, and in that particular section under Release Date:, it reads September 30, 2009. That doesn't mean I'm convinced of the release date on IGN being accurate, as THQ will confirm or debunk the listed date pretty soon probably, but the SmackDown! Countdown could be done if this release date is accurate, if they started June 30th or July 1, since that would be roughly 3 months out, which is 90 days, and they usually have about 60-70 wrestlers total (approximate estimate). But I am a little skeptical.

[Funky Fly]

Fuck, where is the god damn 360 patch for '09? If it doesn't come out, fuck Smackdown '10

[DAMN iNATOR]

Originally Posted by Funky Fly Fuck, where is the god damn 360 patch for '09? If it doesn't come out, fuck Smackdown '10

See, that's why I prefer to stick to the PS2 version every year. Yes there is a huge fucking tradeoff in the graphics department but that doesn't really worry me so much. With the 360 and PS3, however, you are much more likely to have bugs in games just because the hardware is that much more complicated, allowing this possibility.

But, still, even so, I don't see why THQ not following through on releasing a patch for '09 should have any bearing on whether or not you decide to pick up a copy of WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2010 (not questioning your rationale, FF, just saying since THQ generally has a pretty good track record with the franchise, it seems sort of silly to just sit there and say "Oh, so no patch, huh? Welp, guess I'm not buyin' the sequel!")

[Xero]

If not getting the patch meant the game was broken (not that it is), yeah, I'd skip out on the sequel.

[Kalyx triaD]

The game wasn't 'broken' so much as designed badly. I'd still prefer the current gen versions to PS2.

[Funky Fly]

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR See, that's why I prefer to stick to the PS2 version every year. Yes there is a huge fucking tradeoff in the graphics department but that doesn't really worry me so much. With the 360 and PS3, however, you are much more likely to have bugs in games just because the hardware is that much more complicated, allowing this possibility. But, still, even so, I don't see why THQ not following through on releasing a patch for '09 should have any bearing on whether or not you decide to pick up a copy of WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2010 (not questioning your rationale, FF, just saying since THQ generally has a pretty good track record with the franchise, it seems sort of silly to just sit there and say "Oh, so no patch, huh? Welp, guess I'm not buyin' the sequel!")

Not broken at all.

Originally Posted by Kalyx triaD The game wasn't 'broken' so much as designed badly. I'd still prefer the current gen versions to PS2.

This. It's not a bad game, and it's by far the best SvR in ages. But the career mode has a significant flaw: it takes FOREVER to make your guy have good stats. Add to that that you have to do it for each and every CAW and it makes creating CAWs (which I love to do) a chore.

They promised a patch that would fix the attributes bug (you can't choose what attributes you keep once you have 6, making getting some of the later ones impossible to get). This patch is also supposed to include a cheat to make non-career CAWs have a 90 rating. The patch has been out on the PS3 for ages, but not on 360.

The DLC was out at Christmas for PS3 and came out in late march for 360. Not liking this lack of attention for 360 owners. This isn't a massive bug fix they are doing, it's 2 minor things (a small bug fix and adding a cheat). Relatively easy things to do from a programming standpoint, especially since it's code that shuld have no difference between platforms.

[Hasney]

Originally Posted by DAMN iNATOR See, that's why I prefer to stick to the PS2 version every year. Yes there is a huge fucking tradeoff in the graphics department but that doesn't really worry me so much. With the 360 and PS3, however, you are much more likely to have bugs in games just because the hardware is that much more complicated, allowing this possibility. But, still, even so, I don't see why THQ not following through on releasing a patch for '09 should have any bearing on whether or not you decide to pick up a copy of WWE SmackDown! vs. RAW 2010 (not questioning your rationale, FF, just saying since THQ generally has a pretty good track record with the franchise, it seems sort of silly to just sit there and say "Oh, so no patch, huh? Welp, guess I'm not buyin' the sequel!")

Lol

And THQ has had an awful track record for at least 5 years

[DAMN iNATOR]

Originally Posted by Funky Fly This. It's not a bad game, and it's by far the best SvR in ages. But the career mode has a significant flaw: it takes FOREVER to make your guy have good stats. Add to that that you have to do it for each and every CAW and it makes creating CAWs (which I love to do) a chore.

That it does. That's why I'd like to see them go back to the days of the SvR (original, back in 2004) stat system from Season Mode, where you could buy X amount of experience to apply to your wrestler for $X of cash. That would be a great solution, IMHO.

[DAMN iNATOR]

For anyone who may want it...No questions will be asked, I promise. UPDATED.


Face Template:

Name: Santina Marella
Nickname: Miss WrestleMania
Nickname Placement: Prefix
HUD Name: Santina
Announcer Introduction: The Queen
Hometown: Italy
Weight Class: Light Heavyweight (227 Lbs.)
Crowd Reaction: Good
Show: RAW

*Head:*
Hair: 23/71 Color: X: -25, Y: -100 Shade: -11 Hair Scale: 6
*Head Morphing:*
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*Face Morphing*
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Eyes: edit as you like
Nose: edit as you like
Cheeks: edit as you like
Mouth: edit as you like
Jaw: edit as you like
Ears: edit as you like

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*Body Type*
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Body Morphing-
Neck: H: -33, W: 0, D: -12
Chest: edit as you like
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Waist: edit as you like
Arms: edit as you like
Hands: edit as you like
Legs: L: 20, W: 0 D: -10
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*Layers*
Clothing
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Upper Body-->Tops: 21/30*
*Add logos in order ((put diagonally down the right side of the top)): Logos-->Lettering-->Alphabet: 7/17, capital “M”
Logos-->Lettering-->Alphabet: 7/17, lower-case “i”
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Lower Body-->Bottoms: 35/43 color: pink in pallete OR custom: X:-96 Y:-31 Shade:78
Lower Body-->Footwear-->Socks: 12/21 stylize: choose the one that gives you smaller fishnet holes/less exposed skin
Lower Body-->Shoes: 22/37 Color: X:-13 Y:-100 Shade:-55


Crowd Signs
1.) 19/21: 3rd row, 2nd to right (with red heart and “Diva [unreadeable]”)
2.) 18/21: 2nd row, far right: “Dirty Diva” sign (pink background)
3.) 18/21: 3rd row, 2nd from left: “Bring out the divas” sign (white background)
4.) 09/21: 2nd row, 2nd from left: “Take It Off!” sign (purple background)

Move-Set
Tag Team-->Corner Tag Team: \/(R): Poetry In Motion <(R): Double Elbow Drop 2 ^(R): Slingshot Sunset Flip (R)>: Body Attack

Tag Team-->Tag Team Finisher (w/Santino in a stable with only these 2): Death Drop 1

Special-->Signatures-->All: Illegal Pin Special-->Signatures-->All: School Boy Roll Up

Special-->Finishers-->All: Chick Kick (^) Special-->Finishers-->All: DDT 18 (+ & ^) You can alternatively use the Long Kiss Goodnight for the secondary finisher

Standard Actions-->Taunts: ALL Taunt Diva 1
Standard Actions-->Ring-In: Woman Ring In
Standard Actions-->Ring-Out: Woman Ring Out

Entrance
Advanced Creation

Intro-->Motion: Diva 04 Lighting: Diva 04
Stage-->Motion: Diva 04 Lighting: Diva 04
Ramp-->Motion: Diva 04 Lighting: Diva 04 (add nametag between 33% and 50% of the ramp animation completion)
Ring-In-->Motion: Diva 04 Lighting: Diva 04
Ring-->Motion: Diva 04 Lighting: Diva 04

Champion Entrance: Diva 04
Movie: Santino Marella
Music: Santino Marella

A few tips: The legs should be longer, shoulders less wide, and the neck shorter.

[Hasney]

Jakks signed a new game contract on behalf of THQ and THQ are now suing them.

I would not expect a SD Vs Raw 2011 unless it's sorted quickly

[DAMN iNATOR]

Eh, I'm sure THQ and Jakks Pacific will probably settle very quickly, very quietly...I mean, neither side is going to dig in it's heels for a court case that will end up eating into profits in this kind of a world economy.

[Kalyx triaD]

Originally Posted by Hasney Jakks signed a new game contract on behalf of THQ and THQ are now suing them.

Swear to Zeus I fucking hate publishers now.

[DAMN iNATOR]

I'm guessing it'll blow over pretty quickly...

[Kalyx triaD]

Maybe, but the action is still stupid. Perhaps there's more to the story.

[Hasney]

THQ sues Jakks Pacific over WWE contract

9:40 AM on 07.02.2009, Brad Nicholson

12 comments

Industry Bullshit

Things just got real (again) between THQ and Jakks Pacific. The publisher of Red Faction: Guerrilla and Legends of Wrestlemania recently sued the toymaker over a decision to extend their joint deal with the WWE for an additional five years. Apparently, Jakks Pacific inked the binding contract with the WWE without THQ’s permission. That’s a no-no, we believe.
THQ’s argument is that Jakks shouldn’t have the ability to make a decision for both parties. THQ also doesn't like a term in the new contract that keeps the publisher from publishing a WWE game a year after the contract is toast. Jakks Pacific is all like, “Nu-uh. I do what I want; unilateral decisions not excluded." Ultimately a judge -- not a Hell in a Cell match as we didn't previously report -- will decide this thing.
[via Gamasutra]

[Kalyx triaD]

Childish.

[Juan]

I really hopes this means the end of THQ/Jakks WWE games.

[Hasney]

Originally Posted by Juan I really hopes this means the end of THQ/Jakks WWE games.

Oh god I can only hope

[The Mackem]

What an odd piece of news.

[DAMN iNATOR]

Originally Posted by Juan I really hopes this means the end of THQ/Jakks WWE games.

Pretty sure they can't stop making 2010 yet though, as it's not part of the new, apparently THQ-unapproved/Jakks Pacific-approved contract deal. Odd that nothing has been said about Yuke's Media Creators, CRIware or GameSpy Technologies...they all help on these games, too...

[Big Vito 22]

It's that time of the year again...some roster confirmations trickling in. Already knew about John Cena, Undertaker, Rey Mysterio, Edge, and Randy Orton.

Now tack on The Miz, John Morrison, Kofi Kingston, Shad, JTG, Christian, R-Truth, and Dolph Ziggler. Apparently they were selectable in a trial of the game at a conference or something.

Really, Ziggler is the only surprising inclusion...since he was basically a jobber around WM time when the game was likely finalized. Glad to see he made the cut though. Him and R-Truth are now making their SD series debuts.

[Big Vito 22]

Oh yeah, here's an interview with Morrison. He mentions R-Truth and Dolph as being in. He also raves about the customization, which I can't wait to hear more about.

http://www.videogamer.com/videos/wwe...nterview.html#

[Anybody Thrilla]

All that customization would sorta throw a wrench in the works for their alternate costume DLC, wouldn't it? Not that I would mind. It would just give us more characters in DLC most likely.

[Lux]

well I'm sold...

can't help but pick it up each year

[Hasney]

Oh yeah, THQ signed the deal in the end after a court ruled that JAKKS only get half of what they used to get. It's worth about $23 million dollars to THQ that ruling.

THQ triumphant in WWE / JAKKS Pacific dispute

by David Hinkle { Jul 28th 2009 at 12:00PM }

You may not know this, but THQ and JAKKS Pacific have been locked in a vicious courtroom tussle over payment for work on some of THQ's WWE titles. See, THQ and JAKKS had a deal wherein THQ was to pay JAKKS 10% of money accrued from the sale of the JAKKS-developed WWE games; however, the two ALL CAPS companies were set to renegotiate that deal when JAKKS jumped the gun, signing a new contract without THQ's consent. And, as you've probably guessed, that's when THQ sicked the lawyers on 'em. Today, the result of this ongoing cage match are in and THQ managed to pin JAKKS for the 1-2-3.

In the end, THQ was able to get that 10% figure lowered to only 6%, which will save the company "approximately" $23 million. JAKKS is surely upset: before the suit, the company was set to receive $57 million for its efforts in developing WWE titles; now that figure is a much lower $34 million. And what have we learned here? In the fantastical world of WWE, signing important documents without the consent of your business partner might make for great television but ... wait, we need to rethink this lesson ...

Source - THQ Prevails in JAKKS Pacific Arbitration Dispute
Source - JAKKS Pacific Announces Result in THQ Arbitration

[Big Vito 22]

Customization would add replayability for me even if the gameplay itself fails to keep me consistently entertained, as has been the case. If I'm bored I'd have fun just making the wrestlers look ridiculous.

[The Jayman]

I would love to just see a Survivor Series match. the actual 5 on 5 tag match. With the power of the 360 and ps3 I know it can be done.

[Dark-Slicer Diago]

Just because it can be done, doesn't mean they'll be smart enough to do it.

[Big Vito 22]

Hell, 5 on 5...I'd be content with just 4 on 4.

One of the biggest concerns they've had is the HUDs taking up too much space. But it seemed they might have fixed that problem with tag teams sharing the same momentum meter.

[Funky Fly]

Done with this shit. UFC patch is out before the SVR 09 patch for 360? Fuck it.

[The Jayman]

I do remember the old smackdown games commercials. they were pretty good. The Kurt Angle one was my favorite

[Big Vito 22]

Odd development. Yoshi Tatsu is in the game...as DLC:

http://gamingring.com/news/?p=6441

Makes sense for him to not be on the regular roster, as he just debuted a month ago...just seems funny to have a DLC guy announced before most of the regular roster.

[Lord-Of-Darkness]

It would be cool if the NSI guys are DLC

[CSL]

I would pay the DLC fee just for Tatsu's theme (Don't let the fact that I have the theme and that the game supports custom soundtracks get in the way of this post)

[DAMN iNATOR]

As much as I like Tatsu, I was kinda MEH about this announcement. All I'm really waiting to see is if (HOPEFULLY) Zack Ryder will make the main roster as I only have a PS2 and as such obviously can't access any of the DLC , but I can't see why they would leave him out...if they did, it would be criminal.