As noted before, Karrion Kross and Scarlett’s contracts with WWE expired on Sunday and both of their roster profiles were moved over to WWE’s Alumni section on their website.
Kross and Scarlett released a new documentary video titled “The Killer: Part 2” on their official YouTube channel on Sunday evening confirming their departures from WWE and providing details regarding it.
Kross gave his thoughts confirming his contract had expired on August 10th and went into details regarding his contract negotiations with WWE and how those talks left him “profoundly disappointed.”
“August 10th it’s up. That’s another situation where it’s like, on top of everything else that’s going on, that’s confusing and stressful because I expressed interest to renegotiate in early January with WWE. I think it’s crazy, it’s preposterous for anyone to think that I wouldn’t want to be here or go somewhere else. It’s nothing against anywhere else, but I’m fully committed. I’m here. There isn’t a world that exist where I don’t think I ever made that so entirely clear. Maybe it’s the general nature of people where they think, in all things, where something is not working out they’ll go somewhere else. I’m really not like that. I will bang my head against the pavement until the sidewalk breaks and we get to the basement. It’s just the way I am. It’s frustrating because you express your interest to stay and be here and do things. I’m not going to beg. I’ve already been clear. Many months have gone by and we never had a single conversation about it until recently, and I don’t even feel like the conversation I had recently was an actual serious one. The conversation made me really angry because I didn’t feel like it was a real conversation. Someone had contacted me, and we briefly discussed, it was a very short conversation, and the conversation was done. There wasn’t really anything that was discussed of real substance. It didn’t make me angry or upset, it just profoundly disappointed me because I think about this business probably differently than the person I was speaking to because of the nature of what I do. When I look around at other people that do what I do, some of them have broken their necks, they sacrifice a lot under the guise of being appreciated and rewarded fairly. Some of them are no longer here as a result of the life that they lived through the abuse that we subject ourselves in performing. That’s on us, that’s not on anybody else, but there is a toll that we all pay to do this, and we know that.”
Kross also gave his thoughts about how he felt weird ahead of his match against Sami Zayn at SummerSlam 2025 that it could be his last match in WWE. Kross stated that “if this is it, I’m really going to miss it.”
Kross also stated that he had hoped to stay with WWE during his talks for a potential new deal.
“I try to be delicate while also being honest. I get questions like this all the time and i’m not really sure how to go about it because I don’t want anybody to feel slighted because I don’t think it’s malicious, but sometimes I’m really lost and very confused on why we’re not leaning into things that make sense and are clearly working and are beenficial for all parties. I’m not in control of those decisions. The only thing I can be in control of is doing the best I can with what I’m given. It’s probably the hardest part of the gig when you know you can give more and they tell you, ‘Don’t home run. Hit that to the outfield and run to second. Make sure you stop on second. Do not run home.’ One day, you don’t get the home run, but you run far enough to get past second and you do run home. You’re on the court playing basketball. They tell you to pass, but you have a three-point shot right there. We’re all on the same team and trying to win the game. You shoot and get the three points. They’re mad at you, why? Why are they mad about the extra three points? They wanted the other guy to shoot it? What’s going on here?”
Kross also stated that certain people within WWE had told him to not acknowledge the crowd support he was getting at shows.
“I remember in the beginning some people were saying, ‘Hey, I wouldn’t take it seriously. It’s not going to last’ or ‘Let’s see if it’s for real when you go out there tonight or if it’s still there when we’re in a different city or state.’ When it was still there and it got louder and louder every week, that went away and it was, ‘We’re not really ready to fully embrace that.’ I was being told by certain people, ‘Don’t acknowledge it,’ which felt really wrong because having a connection with the audience, especially one like this, this doesn’t just come around for everybody. It wasn’t something that was constructed or thought of. This happened organically through a series of events and I wouldn’t even say it’s from something that happened this year. This is something that is happening because of what has happened over the last three years. We’re getting to a tipping point and it can be stated that it started because I punched through something and everyone saw what was on the other side of that. I don’t feel like we are all collectively going in direction that the audience would like us to go in. That part doesn’t feel good.
Things feel fucked. It’s impossible to ignore it. I don’t want people to feel like they are being ignored, and a lot of them do, which is why it’s getting louder. I knew this was going to happen. If we didn’t lean into what the audience was asking for and what they wanted to see, they’re going to get louder. Pretending it’s not there or convincing ourselves that it’s going to go away, it’s not. This isn’t by a clever design, either. A lot of people thought or were telling me, ‘It’s going to go away.’ I knew it wasn’t.”
Kross also gave his thoughts about how he was building up a relationship with fans resulting in the groundswell of support he was receiving over time.
“I’m building a relationship and having a relationship with the audience, sometimes, with certain people, to me, it feels like they’re treating it as if I’m being rebellious or that it’s a problem that this has happened. This should not feel that way. It should not be treated like it’s a problem. It makes it feel like you outperformed or got ahead of something that they didn’t think you would get ahead of and they don’t like that you have gotten ahead of it. That’s the way it feels, and it’s not a good feeling. That’s based on conversations, things people have said. The merchandise, when it started to blow up, I had no idea until fans started pointing it out online. I go back to my points of contact and the company and ask them, ‘Is this true?’ They’re like, ‘We don’t know.’ How do you not know? I wanted to know if it was true. I did some digging and I came to find out it is true. Karrion Kross became a top seller through fan engagement. It’s amazing. People can say whatever they want about the online fans. I know the negativity is not welcomed and they’re not going to create and book around that, I understand that part, but support online is different because a lot of the fans online are people that are in other states who couldn’t make it to the current state of the show, but they’ll be there next week when you show up to their town. It was the online community that put that merch up there. Trivializing the online community in broad strokes, nobody is going to love you or like you. The more you try to make them love you and like you, they’ll hate you even more. I get not pandering to negativity, but support is a totally different energy we should be welcoming. That support translated from online to in the building over time.”
Kross also gave his thoughts about how you can not ignore the crowd in the wrestling business and the risks of turning people away if you do so.
“You can’t ignore the crowd in this business. You can try. It’s not going to be good in the end. You don’t want to make your audience feel like they are not part of this. You can’t tell them they are part of this and they are the universe and are so heavily involved in every aspect and then tell them certain subsections don’t matter and we can’t do that. That pisses people off and turns people away.”
Following the release of the video, both Scarlett and Kross issued official statements on Twitter and also stated that they are currently accepting bookings.
Scarlett stated:
My time in WWE has been an incredible ride, and I can truly say it’s been the best locker room I’ve ever been part of. These people aren’t just coworkers, they’re family. I love you all, and I’ll deeply miss seeing you every week.
To the fans, you’ve never just been a crowd. You’ve been our partners in every fight and the reason we give everything for this. From the bottom of my heart, thank you.
The next chapter starts now and I’m ready to bring something unforgettable to any stage, anywhere in the world. If you want The Smokeshow on your show… let’s make it happen.
Bookings & appearances:
Kross stated:
Hey… life is fighting, right?
Now accepting bookings: Business@killerkross.com
See you all again soon.
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My time in WWE has been an incredible ride, and I can truly say it’s been the best locker room I’ve ever been part of. These people aren’t just coworkers, they’re family. I love you all, and I’ll deeply miss seeing you every week.
— Scarlett Bordeaux (@Lady_Scarlett13) August 11, 2025
To the fans, you’ve never just been a crowd.…
Hey… life is fighting, right?
— Kevin Robert Kesar (@realKILLERkross) August 11, 2025
Now accepting bookings:
Business@killerkross.com
See you all again soon.
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Transcript h/t: Fightful.com 1 & 2
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