A recent episode of the Six Feet Under with The Undertaker podcast featured Paul Heyman as the guest. One of the topics discussed included Heyman’s thoughts about Brock Lesnar’s retirement from his wrestling career after his Hell In A Cell match against Oba Femi at WWE’s SummerSlam 2026 Night One event earlier this month.
“I’m accepting of the reality of the situation. When you first break in, so many of the veterans would tell you, ‘Be accepting of it. Don’t fight against the reality of the situation.’ It’s the same as if someone comes to you today and says, ‘We have this perfectly built for you for WrestleMania,’ you’re going to shut it down immediately because you’ve accepted the fact that this is what you’re doing now and that is what you were doing then. Brock has always been a realist about himself. It’s time. To him, I would hear this every year from him, ‘This is my last contract. This is it.’ He meant it when he said it. As we got closer, he would then change his mind, or it didn’t take a lot to talk him into it, but I knew that this was it because he knew this was it. He wasn’t just saying it because he felt it in the moment. This decision was fait accompli.”
Heyman also gave his thoughts about his belief that the defining moment of this generation of pro wrestling was Lesnar defeating The Undertaker at WrestleMania 30 to end The Undertaker’s undefeated WrestleMania streak.
“No one remembers the match; they remember the finish. They remember the crowd reaction. To me, the moment was when the scoreboard changed. The audience knew at that moment, ‘Oh my God, this is really happening.’ Then you feel the rumble in the crowd. ‘We’re witnessing something we never thought we’d get to witness.’ That tells a lot about our industry in that it’s not about everything; it’s about the moment. People remember the finish, the moment, and the emotion. They don’t have to really remember the match itself. If the moment is what you’re building towards and you deliver, that’s the memory. 12 years later, it’s still a sore spot because of that, not because people are saying, ‘During the match, I was expecting this.’ As much as Hogan and Andre from WrestleMania 3 is the WrestleMania moment of the early days or Steve Austin and Mike Tyson being the Attitude Era moment. To me, this generation, that’s the moment.”
Transcript h/t: Fightful.com 1 & 2

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